Pre-Game Disccusion

[alex]

Lets get some discussion going guys.
Who do you think are going to be the nine returners who are asked back to represent the Vets?
If you can state why, then even better. With so many great pre-jurors in the last few seasons alone, I am very intrigued who is going to be asked back. 

[Joe]

Brandon Venezuela
Alyx Venezuela
Gabe Japan
Debbie Japan
Zack India


Because people like them.

[Woods]

Venezuela - Alyx would be a good pick. I liked her enthusiasm for the game and all around enjoyment of the game.

Japan - I want to see Gabe have another chance. Second chances for genuinely nice people is always a good time!

India - Zack... he was a strong competitor in India and by process of elimination because the rest of the pre-jury either sucked or quit.

[ricky]

If only Mary Cooper GODDESS Was pre-jury. omg. I WISH

[Nicole]

So If Bali was the last rookies v vets I assume it will only be vets from the seasons after that. I don't know much about Bali or Mexico so I'll just look at India, Japan, and Venezuela.

India:
1. Lexi- Lexi is so awesome. I loved playing with her and she got a raw deal being beat by woods in redemption island. The fact she was playing two sides somewhat in India was an interesting story and I'd love to see her come back and play again! The problem is I think she is really busy and not sure if she'll have time to commit to a season like this.
2. Zack- zack has been one of the more active alumni since India. There is no doubt zack is dedicated to this series and even though we were on opposite sides in India, it was only because zack knew so much about everyone and was in good with many people. I think zacks boot was definitely an upset and a shock to alumni so he needs to come back for redemption.
3. BK- omg who doesn't love bk? Bk is definitely seeking a redemption story if he comes back. In India he was seen as somewhat of a joke since he made alliances with everyone on day one and never updated his journal. I'm pretty sure India was one of his first real orgs so I think he has learned a lot since then and knows how serious this game is. I'd love to see bk come back and watch his story progress!

Japan: I am assuming for japan we are only choosing the favorites.
1. Debbie- it is rare you find someone who will do a 16 hour endurance challenge the first round. Debbie was definitely a fan favorite in japan due to her activity and emotional investment in the game. Debbie's story was pretty tragic in that she let her emotions get the best of her and that ultimately led to her downfall. I think if she wants to come back she would definitely be casted so we can all see if Debbie can seperate emotions from the game this time around.
2. Gabe- he is the most well known first boot in this series. His activity is great and his energy is something everyone admires. We would all love to see if gabe can keep calm cool and collected and not be an eager beaver if he was casted again.
3. Tyler- I love Tyler! Tyler definitely brings energy and laughter when he is with people and it is great to be a part of and watch him socialize. He got a horrible deal in japan when Sheri cast that vote against him the first round and was then auto voted out when the vote tied and went to past votes. He is seriously the definition of someone who needs redemption because if he didn't have that one vote in japan, I suspect he could have made at least final 8.

Venezuela:
1. Brandon- another great first boot. Brandon got SOO into the game it was a little ridiculous. Within the first round he had video confessionals that were 30 minutes to an hour long. I'd love to see Brandon come back and prove he isn't just a catty gay, even though we love him for that too. I think Brandon has great potential and it was totally wasted in Venezuela. Id be super interested to see how he would play the game if he came back.
2. Penny- penny is definitely someone people want to see come back. Penny's confessionals were super endearing and had us all laughing. Saint penny of the blessed minority is probably one of the best fan club names and I'm pretty jealous of it! Penny never really got to show us all the cards she held in Venezuela since she was always in the minority but she was constantly the voice of reason in her tribe. We know penny is a thinker and I'd love to see her come back and use her intelligence in a majority alliance and make some awesome moves in the game.
3. Samm- was definitely a fan favorite early in the game. The only issue is I can't see Sam and Brandon coming back together so it would have to be one or the other. Sam had a ton of video confessionals and always updated us on the happenings of his game. He was always fighting to get out of the sticky situation he was in and he never gave up which is great to see in a player. If he came back I think he would be a huge threat because how can people not love Sam?
4. Alyx- soooo much potential in Alyx. It was so frustrating to watch he chose bad moves as an alumni. I think Alyx definitely came out as a power player but she was constantly seeking more power and couldn't just sit contently. I hope she learned from her mistakes in Venezuela and could come into Haiti with a clear mind and not let the power get to her head.

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I heard that the twist is the returning players will each coach a rookie and the winning pair become joint Winners where HLC demands to know why she wasn't cast.

Just kidding, that's awful.

[Woods]

May 1, 2014 20:10:27 GMT Nicole said:

So If Bali was the last rookies v vets I assume it will only be vets from the seasons after that. I don't know much about Bali or Mexico so I'll just look at India, Japan, and Venezuela.

India:
1. Lexi- Lexi is so awesome. I loved playing with her and she got a raw deal being beat by woods in redemption island.

Not really sure how being beat fair and square is a "raw deal"... maybe if she spent less time trash talking, she could have focused...

but based off the other info... being India, Japan, Venezuela... I guess I can expand my cast list.

1. India - Zack, BK for sure... and my third would be a toss up. Probably Jeffy because I know the least about him and would want to see him get another chance. Lexi, sorry... don't want to see her back. She was crazy and maybe her busy life made her come off as such... but if the shoe fits, wear it!

2. Venezuela - Alyx for sure still... Brandon, same reason as I picked Gabe earlier. He is a huge fan and just played a little too hard too soon.... he got it out of his system, so maybe this time he can do better?!?!?! and Arun. Arun has that awkward redemption storyline. He left his confessional on public right!?! Let's see what his game is like when he learns to use technology properly this time.

3. Japan - Gabe is still a go for me... Debbie because for some reason, I remember being a fan of hers during Japan... and Tyler for comedy purposes. 

that would be an interesting 9.

[alex]

Nicole I basically love you for how insightful your posts always are.

I think in it's majority the returners are going to be Mexico-India-Japan-Venezuela, but I can see some really good old school people being brought back. It would be cool if a rookie from Bali came back as a Vet, kind of how Erik R went from Fan to Favorite in Caramoan. But I didn't watch Bali, and either way I think the Vets got destroyed cause they sucked so we might not have a rookie to take on that task.

Anyways here are my choices:

MEXICO
Honestly, the whole pre-jury kind of sucked. The only one I could see returning would be TQ, he was pretty decent but got super busy and then made some key mistakes. He is clearly a good player, he hasn't really kept up with iSurv though, so I'm not sure what his chances are, BUT if we were to have someone back from Mexico it would have to be him. I wish Goddess Tina would come back, but she would be a poor choice as a vet despite the hilarity, and with how many strong vets we have in the running it would be a total waste. 

INDIA
I think India had an extremely strong cast, especially in pre-merge and there are A LOT of people who I would love to see back. For starters Fei/Greg who were great players for a while, until racial things came into play and they decided to step off; they were both capable players and had some impact early on, it is unfortunate the way they went AND I am well aware their exit is SUPER controversial, but I would personally love to see both of them get another shot, obviously as close allies only one of them would be asked back, which I doubt, but it would be a cool surprise. Jeffy would be another solid choice, he was the first boot and then through Redemption he survived a while, he played the game too fast and it cost him, but he was entertaining, fun and unique; I would like to see how he would do with a second chance. Lexi  would be another amazing choice for the reasons Nicole pointed out, and being a girl it would be a great balance with probably the sausage fest that the vets could turn into. Zack would probably be my guess for the person who is actually cast, he had a solid storyarc through the season and has been super dedicated. BK would be cool too, mostly to see how much he has grown as a player after observing the slaughterfest served by Queen Audrey last season, I am very curious to see him play again and see the growth as a player ESPECIALLY seeing how good his posts as a viewer were most of the time. 

JAPAN
Gabe PLEASE!!!! One of my early favorites always get voted out super early [Tina-Jeffy-Gabe-Brandon-Saint Penny] and honestly Gabe was def one of the best, he played too hard too fast and got super screwed, but I want to see him back with a vengeance... or to get Franchesca'd out of the Game. Either works [Note: Francesca was my early favorite too ):]. Debbie was SO endearing, and a star, her dedication, passion and lovelyness is NEEDED in a season for pre-merge boots, plus she would add variety to an all-young cast, and she is basically the coolest person ever <3 I definitely see both being cast. 
 
VENEZUELA
Brandon... I hate saying nice things about him because it gets to his head, BUT he had a lot of passion for the game, even updating his journal after being voted out, plus maybe he can prove that he is NOT an annoying catty gay and play as himself instead of trying to do what he thought would be liked by the viewers. Samm would be a VERY solid choice as well, but like Nicole said there is NO way they would bring back two #cattygays as it would give them a huge advantage, or maybe a huge target; Samm was definitely a favorite and he was entertaining, I would like to see him play again without his #cattygays to see how he adapts to a group of more centered players. Saint Penny, the voice of reason the whole season NEEDS a come-back, everyone has spoken through-fully as to why she deserves a return, and quite frankly I think she is going to get it. I would also like to see Alyx back and see how she can fare without the gender division from the beginning, she was entertaining, and fun, wasn't afraid of making moves, sadly for her she was cursed by becoming friends with Robbie Rob and joined his infinite graveyard of friends. FINALLY I want to mention Stephanie, not because she was some great player but because of how entertaining she was, you can't ONLY cast players in a cast, you need some characters and Stephanie fits the bill when it comes to girls. 

MISCELLANEOUS
Chris Ricketts,  I am super biased because I am basically in love with him, but Chris is one of the most adorable, genuine and entertaining players I have ever had the pleasure to play with. He wasn't all that fantastic during Arabia BUT I have played with him in other series and holy fuck, what a Goddess. iSurv1vor NEEDS to have the Chricketts experience, seriously <3 
Also, in contrast Bud would be HILARIOUS to be back, mostly because he thinks he is amazing and he really isn't, and witnessing him falling on his face again would make me laugh forever, and he is a pretty decent villain to root against. I also really enjoyed Luke backin Arabia but I have no idea where he is or anything. I don't know anything about any other seasons, and the Montenegro fans sucked major dick besides Olyvia Bird Godesss [<3] so I hope none of them would be asked back. 

[alex]

May 1, 2014 21:29:38 GMT Woods said:

Arun. Arun has that awkward redemption storyline. He left his confessional on public right!?! Let's see what his game is like when he learns to use technology properly this time.

I can genuinely say I would HATE to see Arun back. I am certain he is a nice kid and all, but I cannot stand another season of non-entertaining delusion by the "Devil" and awful moves, along with a super monotone confessional personality. I pray to the iSurv1vor Gods that this is not in the future for this season. 

[BK]

Has anyone else noticed the absence of Liberte from the board for about the past week?

[Gabe]

Thanks for the love guys. Hope I actually do get cast

[mariconda]

Alyx and bailey from Venezuela... Just because i feel they both got screwed..

From Bali I would have to say (Myself.... Lol just kidding) no but all seriousness I feel that like the first 2 rookies eliminated from the game should return....

[alex]

May 2, 2014 0:29:25 GMT mariconda said:

Alyx and bailey from Venezuela... Just because i feel they both got screwed..

From Bali I would have to say (Myself.... Lol just kidding) no but all seriousness I feel that like the first 2 rookies eliminated from the game should return....

Um, Bailey made 6th place...

Vets are supposed to be pre-jurors, I thought. 

[mariconda]

Whoops meant to type Brandon.... My bad

[Kurtis]

Alex Rico is god and picked all the right people and deserves a crown and stuff.

Despite VERY persuasive begging TQ isn't in, methinks... the only other person from Mexico that would be worthwhile is Skylar, who figured out the pairs in a nanosecond, made a couple alliances, and then poofed.

Zack FTW!