Ponder1sa Comments

[kirin]

This is kind of for Nax, as well as I guess for the players after the game. Someone mentioned how it's always cool to see what the jurors were saying before you got to the jury. So here is some of the comments I find interesting from the Ponder1sa skype chat.

[NIKKI'S VOTE OFF]

[6/22/14 3:07:48 PM] Nicole Neises: There is a great chance Jo will make it to the end and win. She has a chance of going with yap whom she will beat or Charlie whom she will have a good chance of beeping.
[6/22/14 3:08:24 PM] Vic: I don't know who I'd vote between her and yapp tbh
[6/22/14 3:12:48 PM] Nicole Neises: What about her and charlie
[6/22/14 3:13:11 PM] Vic: Same thing. I don't know enough about her game right now
[6/22/14 3:13:26 PM] Nicole Neises: Yeah that's true
[6/22/14 3:31:38 PM] Jessica Frey: if charlie makes it to the end, i might actually vote with him depending on who he is in the end with
[6/22/14 3:32:06 PM] Jessica Frey: depending on his argument at final tribal

[CHARLIE'S VOTE OFF]

[6/24/14 1:50:52 PM] Kirin: Welcome Charlie
[6/24/14 1:52:08 PM] Vic: This is...very surprising
[6/24/14 1:52:58 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i know its cool
[6/24/14 1:53:12 PM] Vic: Did Cristina vote you out?
[6/24/14 1:53:27 PM] Charlie Schwerin: either her or joanne
[6/24/14 1:54:04 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i was going to use my rock no matter what and they both convince me not to so i didnt
[6/24/14 1:54:06 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yeah
[6/24/14 1:54:17 PM] Charlie Schwerin: you guys arent mad at me i hope
[6/24/14 1:54:17 PM] Vic: Surprised you didn't use it
[6/24/14 1:54:20 PM] Vic: Nope
[6/24/14 1:54:26 PM] Jared S: Charlie!!!!!!!!!!! Hi!
[6/24/14 1:54:29 PM] Vic: Only mad at Jacob
[6/24/14 1:54:32 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I use so going to till late last night
[6/24/14 1:54:49 PM] Jared S: I'm sorry to see ya here!
[6/24/14 1:54:59 PM] Charlie Schwerin: me too but its ok
[6/24/14 1:55:26 PM] Vic: I have no hard feelings toward you and I hope the same you about me
[6/24/14 1:55:33 PM] Vic: All in the game for me
[6/24/14 1:55:34 PM] Nicole Neises: Holy crap!
[6/24/14 1:55:35 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yes we are good
[6/24/14 1:55:44 PM] Jared S: I'm literally stunned lol
[6/24/14 1:55:46 PM] Charlie Schwerin: im good with everyone
[6/24/14 1:56:00 PM] Vic: Yeah I'm trying to understand what happened haha
[6/24/14 1:56:13 PM] Jared S: Jacob hodges and Derek must be together. And they either have cris or jo
[6/24/14 1:56:21 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yes
[6/24/14 1:56:27 PM] Charlie Schwerin: they where and we knew that
[6/24/14 1:56:30 PM] Nicole Neises: Probably cris
[6/24/14 1:56:34 PM] Vic: Yeah I wonder who flipped between Jo and Cristina
[6/24/14 1:56:38 PM] Vic: Guessing Cristina
[6/24/14 1:56:51 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I think it was joanne
[6/24/14 1:56:53 PM] Nicole Neises: She was probably convinced to like not flip ifk
[6/24/14 1:56:55 PM] Nicole Neises: Idk
[6/24/14 1:57:09 PM] Nicole Neises: If it was Jo, she finally made a move
[6/24/14 1:57:15 PM] Nicole Neises: Not a smart one if it was her
[6/24/14 1:57:18 PM] Charlie Schwerin: joanne was the Only person that Knew i didnt play my rock
[6/24/14 1:57:24 PM] Nicole Neises: No way any of them will take her to the end
[6/24/14 1:57:25 PM] Jared S: Jo playin like a playa!
[6/24/14 1:57:47 PM] Jared S: She got friends on jury. They won't take her bc of us.
[6/24/14 1:57:50 PM] Jared S:
[6/24/14 1:57:54 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yeah
[6/24/14 1:58:01 PM] Charlie Schwerin: but i think she wante dto make a move
[6/24/14 1:58:07 PM] Charlie Schwerin: but it could had been christina
[6/24/14 1:58:10 PM] Vic: Wasn't a smart move for her or Cristina
[6/24/14 1:58:18 PM] Vic: Smartest move was to get out Jacob
[6/24/14 1:58:20 PM] Charlie Schwerin: but then i dont know why she votes with yapp and oi last round
[6/24/14 1:58:33 PM] Vic: Oh true
[6/24/14 1:58:47 PM] Jared S: Jacob and hodges are going to end up in the finals.
[6/24/14 1:58:54 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yeah i even told brandon if he didnt win we were going to vote derek and we all would vote jacob uncase somthing happen
[6/24/14 1:58:58 PM] Vic: I have to wait even longer to give Jacob shit

[6/24/14 2:00:56 PM] Jared S: Hodges is prob pretending to b close to Derek. He is a super liar.
[6/24/14 2:01:05 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yeah
[6/24/14 2:01:13 PM] Charlie Schwerin: he was going to vote derek this round
[6/24/14 2:01:20 PM] Nicole Neises: If it was jo.. It was a stupid move. Like she was set with cris, yap and Charlie. She would have had a better chance of winning
[6/24/14 2:01:37 PM] Jared S: Mmhm.
[6/24/14 2:01:45 PM] Jared S: I don't want Jo to f up
[6/24/14 2:02:12 PM] Charlie Schwerin: yeah I think the 4 of us in that group had the best chance at making it
[6/24/14 2:02:12 PM] Nicole Neises: She is screwed regardless
[6/24/14 2:02:40 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i was trying to think of a way to get joanee out at 4 lol
[6/24/14 2:02:56 PM] Jared S: I love how in Derek's leaked confessional he said he thinks he has my vote no matter what.
[6/24/14 2:03:06 PM] Jared S: #anotherthingcoming
[6/24/14 2:03:09 PM] Charlie Schwerin: lol!
[6/24/14 2:03:39 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i have audio of him talking about me and its not nice things either
[6/24/14 2:03:47 PM] Vic: I don't understand how someone actually voted with Derek and them after his confessional leaked

[6/24/14 3:56:38 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Im like 90% sure it was christina that switch
[6/24/14 3:56:49 PM] Jessica Frey: that would make more sense tbh
[6/24/14 3:57:01 PM] Charlie Schwerin: if i had never swtched it to jacob i think derek would had been voted out
[6/24/14 3:57:26 PM] Jessica Frey: ya cristina was close withjacob not the other two as much well not derek
[6/24/14 3:57:30 PM] Charlie Schwerin: jacob and christina are close and brandon is close to both as well
[6/24/14 3:57:40 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i think that is the final 3
[6/24/14 3:57:42 PM] Jessica Frey: hodges is close with everyone
[6/24/14 3:57:43 PM] Vic: Cristina you're killing me
[6/24/14 3:58:05 PM] Charlie Schwerin: oh sorry cristina
[6/24/14 3:58:15 PM] Jessica Frey: but i think if its hodges and crstina and jacob thats good for cristina b/c she is final 2 no matter what if its a final 2 but hodges and jacob will take each other out no matter what
[6/24/14 3:58:18 PM] Vic: No like I'm saying Cristina is killing me lol
[6/24/14 3:58:32 PM] Vic: Yeah but she won't win
[6/24/14 3:58:35 PM] Charlie Schwerin: oh lol
[6/24/14 3:58:38 PM] Charlie Schwerin: no she wont
[6/24/14 3:58:44 PM] Jessica Frey: it forces jacob and hodges to win if they want to advance
[6/24/14 3:58:45 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i wanted her and yapp at the end lol
[6/24/14 3:58:52 PM] Jessica Frey: lmao
[6/24/14 3:59:01 PM] Jessica Frey: yap is actually really self aware i like that
[6/24/14 3:59:05 PM] Vic: If Cristina's there I'll probably vote for her
[6/24/14 3:59:19 PM] Jessica Frey: like he knows his place like he knows how he is perceived

[BEFORE TC]

[6/25/14 5:15:21 PM] Jessica Frey: i can be there but I'm going to be so nervous for hodges/jacob
[6/25/14 5:16:00 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I think they both are good
[6/25/14 5:16:22 PM] Jessica Frey: good but i think it would be smart if one of them took the other out then that person left will have a better chance to win
[6/25/14 5:16:47 PM] Nicole Neises: Oh so smart, but smart and Christina Havnt been friends this game
[6/25/14 5:16:51 PM] Nicole Neises: Same with derek
[6/25/14 5:16:53 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Yeah but right now they need each other
[6/25/14 5:17:10 PM] Jessica Frey: ya very true
[6/25/14 5:17:22 PM] Jessica Frey: it would be a true fight if they both were in the end
[6/25/14 5:17:38 PM] Nicole Neises: I would love that
[6/25/14 5:17:44 PM] Jared S: #teamjacob
[6/25/14 5:17:46 PM] Jessica Frey: oh ya derek, he is a good threat too...he might sneak by
[6/25/14 5:17:49 PM] Jared S: in that case.
[6/25/14 5:17:49 PM] Jessica Frey: omg yes jared!!
[6/25/14 5:18:13 PM] Jessica Frey: why so jared? just asking?
[6/25/14 5:18:48 PM] Jared S: i just think jacob is PLAYING without being snotty about it....i think hodges is playing, but i think he thinks he is sooooooooo amazing at this game
[6/25/14 5:18:52 PM] Jared S: and that annoys me.
[6/25/14 5:19:19 PM] Jessica Frey: i can see that. hodges knows he is playing a spencer come from behind malcolm type game
[6/25/14 5:19:22 PM] Jessica Frey: its a good story
[6/25/14 5:19:51 PM] Vic: Lol Jacob might not be snotty but he's also being a bitch that has no respect for anyone

[DURING F6 TC]

[6/26/14 12:26:35 AM] Vic: god dammit cristina
[6/26/14 12:32:50 AM] Vic: #TeamYapp oh my
[6/26/14 12:32:59 AM] Jared S: DO IT CRIS DO ITTTTT
[6/26/14 12:33:01 AM] Charlie Schwerin: right
[6/26/14 12:33:09 AM] Vic: COME ON CRISTINA JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
[6/26/14 12:35:38 AM] Jared S: srsly.
[6/26/14 12:35:46 AM] Jared S: TAKE A HINT FROM THE EMOTICONS
[6/26/14 12:35:47 AM] Jared S: lol
[6/26/14 12:36:01 AM] Vic: cristina is seriously the most disappointing person right now
[6/26/14 12:36:15 AM] Jared S: srsly.
[6/26/14 12:36:22 AM] Jared S: her BIG chance right here.

[6/26/14 12:45:12 AM] Vic: Cristina is pissing me off
[6/26/14 12:45:42 AM] Jessica Frey: Enough to vote for Jacob ?
[6/26/14 12:45:48 AM] Charlie Schwerin: this could be a move cristina could use if she made it to the final
[6/26/14 12:46:01 AM] Vic: her inexperience is showing big time
[6/26/14 12:46:54 AM] Charlie Schwerin: she isnt doing it
[6/26/14 12:46:58 AM] Jared S: nope.
[6/26/14 12:47:04 AM] Vic: lol
[6/26/14 12:47:06 AM] Jared S: boooo. i am NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR voting for her to win
[6/26/14 12:47:10 AM] Jared S: wouldn't even consider it
[6/26/14 12:47:18 AM] Vic: guess what
[6/26/14 12:47:22 AM] Vic: I probably won't either
[6/26/14 12:47:24 AM] Vic: this is ridic

[kirin]

[BEFORE F5 TC]

[6/27/14 7:53:51 PM] Jessica Frey: it will be crazy if joanne wins immunity
[6/27/14 7:59:51 PM] Charlie Schwerin: i would love it
[6/27/14 8:00:57 PM] Jessica Frey: if it happened, i think vic might orgasm at the thought of jacob coming to ponderosa
[6/27/14 8:01:18 PM] Charlie Schwerin: it would be derek
[6/27/14 8:01:19 PM] Jessica Frey: i think it would be hodges or derek in that scenario through
[6/27/14 8:01:20 PM] Nicole Neises: When is tribal?
[6/27/14 8:14:11 PM] Vic: At this point, I want Jacob to make the end
[6/27/14 8:14:25 PM] Vic: its not that much longer of a wait and I would get to do it in front of everyone

[DURING F5 TC]

[6/27/14 10:26:19 PM] Vic: welp jacob immune
[6/27/14 10:26:28 PM] Jared S: lollllllllll
[6/27/14 10:26:37 PM] Nicole Neises: that sucks
[6/27/14 10:26:43 PM] Nicole Neises: i mean good because he is good
[6/27/14 10:26:44 PM] Vic: an early welcome to jo
[6/27/14 10:26:50 PM] Nicole Neises: but like jo
[6/27/14 10:26:51 PM] Jared S: poor jobert
[6/27/14 10:27:03 PM] Jessica Frey: yyou never know
[6/27/14 10:27:06 PM] Jessica Frey: something could happen
[6/27/14 10:29:51 PM] Jared S: OMG JOANNE WAS THAT CLOSE?!?!
[6/27/14 10:29:58 PM] Jessica Frey: ahhhh crazy
[6/27/14 10:29:59 PM] Vic: ugh jojo
[6/27/14 10:30:00 PM] Vic:
[6/27/14 10:30:04 PM] Nicole Neises: that sucks
[6/27/14 10:30:14 PM] Jessica Frey: i feel like something will happen this round. just a strange feeling
[6/27/14 10:30:19 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Tear
[6/27/14 10:30:30 PM] Jared S: i have a happy gut feeling too.
[6/27/14 10:30:33 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Me too actually
[6/27/14 10:30:36 PM] Jared S: fingers crossed.
[6/27/14 10:30:39 PM] Vic: lets hope
[6/27/14 10:31:01 PM] Jessica Frey: like i thnk hodges or derek will get voted out or like when jacob said no one talked to him that made me think maybe he was in trouble
[6/27/14 10:31:10 PM] Jessica Frey: idk just a weird feeling
[6/27/14 10:31:29 PM] Vic: or jacob was lying to not reveal anything

[6/27/14 10:36:37 PM] Vic: oh shit
[6/27/14 10:36:42 PM] Vic: derek leaving maybe?
[6/27/14 10:36:45 PM] Nicole Neises: shouldnt have voted yap in the first place
[6/27/14 10:36:53 PM] Jared S: WELL #byederek
[6/27/14 10:36:56 PM] Jessica Frey: ya
[6/27/14 10:37:00 PM] Nicole Neises: yes please
[6/27/14 10:37:01 PM] Jessica Frey: derek sounds worried
[6/27/14 10:37:12 PM] Nicole Neises: i mean.. it is dumb.. like derek wont win
[6/27/14 10:37:20 PM] Vic: well jacob is immune

[6/27/14 10:37:35 PM] Vic: so hodges doesn't have many options to make a move
[6/27/14 10:37:50 PM] Jessica Frey: cristina will follow jacob
[6/27/14 10:37:57 PM] Vic: mhm
[6/27/14 10:38:06 PM] Jessica Frey: hodges could use derek, he better hope he has joanne
[6/27/14 10:38:28 PM] Nicole Neises: ding ding ding ding
[6/27/14 10:38:31 PM] Jessica Frey: omg i just fell over
[6/27/14 10:38:45 PM] Nicole Neises: awkward
[6/27/14 10:38:54 PM] Vic: literally just laughed
[6/27/14 10:39:41 PM] Jessica Frey: are they voting out hodges??
[6/27/14 10:40:06 PM] Nicole Neises: it has to be derek
[6/27/14 10:40:11 PM] Nicole Neises: oh way
[6/27/14 10:40:14 PM] Nicole Neises: hodges
[6/27/14 10:40:16 PM] Nicole Neises: omg
[6/27/14 10:40:24 PM] Nicole Neises: nah its derek
[6/27/14 10:40:25 PM] Jared S: whaaaaaaat
[6/27/14 10:40:27 PM] Jared S: say whaaaaaat
[6/27/14 10:40:31 PM] Nicole Neises: totally derek
[6/27/14 10:40:38 PM] Nicole Neises: yussss
[6/27/14 10:40:40 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Go Joanne!!! I'm so happy
[6/27/14 10:40:46 PM] Nicole Neises: me too
[6/27/14 10:40:52 PM] Vic: .....
[6/27/14 10:40:55 PM] Vic: shut up derek
[6/27/14 10:40:57 PM] Jared S: it doesn't sound like she's leavingggggggggg
[6/27/14 10:41:01 PM] Jared S: and GAG derek
[6/27/14 10:41:04 PM] Jessica Frey: ahhhhhhhh
[6/27/14 10:41:05 PM] Jared S: get over yourself.
[6/27/14 10:41:11 PM] Jessica Frey: ya derek is starting to fight it sounds
[6/27/14 10:41:13 PM] Vic: jared you're definitely voting for him to win
[6/27/14 10:41:20 PM] Jared S: derek?
[6/27/14 10:41:22 PM] Vic: he HAS your vote
[6/27/14 10:41:23 PM] Jared S: oh
[6/27/14 10:41:24 PM] Jared S: hahaha
[6/27/14 10:41:24 PM] Vic: yeah
[6/27/14 10:41:26 PM] Vic: hahah
[6/27/14 10:41:26 PM] Jared S: i get it now
[6/27/14 10:41:28 PM] Jared S: hahaa
[6/27/14 10:41:45 PM] Jessica Frey: watch its like cristina just mind fuck us all
[6/27/14 10:41:54 PM] Nicole Neises: hahahah
[6/27/14 10:41:56 PM] Nicole Neises: nahh
[6/27/14 10:42:47 PM] Vic: jesus christ
[6/27/14 10:44:26 PM] Jessica Frey: damn good answers joanne
[6/27/14 10:46:03 PM] Vic: I find literally everything Jacob says to be irritating
[6/27/14 10:48:24 PM] Nicole Neises: ahhhhhh
[6/27/14 10:48:25 PM] Vic: LOOOOOOOOOOL
[6/27/14 10:48:26 PM] Nicole Neises: omg
[6/27/14 10:48:29 PM] Jared S: o my stars.
[6/27/14 10:48:39 PM] Jared S: i am soooooooooooo happy for jo!

[kirin]

[NIGHT BEFORE F4 IC/TC]

[6/30/14 10:31:46 PM] Derek.2: Vic just wants to bully Jacob lol
[6/30/14 10:31:56 PM] Vic: Not at all
[6/30/14 10:32:17 PM] Vic: Because if Cristina's there too it'd be good
[6/30/14 10:32:35 PM] Derek.2: Cristina never turned on you though
[6/30/14 10:32:43 PM] Vic: I know
[6/30/14 10:32:48 PM] Derek.2: So why are you insinuating you'd be upset with her
[6/30/14 10:32:50 PM] Vic: I have stuff to tell her!
[6/30/14 10:32:53 PM] Derek.2: Ohhhh
[6/30/14 10:33:05 PM] Vic: Not upset with her at all
[6/30/14 10:33:11 PM] Vic: Love that girl
[6/30/14 10:33:13 PM] Derek.2: Like what stuff to tell her
[6/30/14 10:33:23 PM] Vic: You'll see
[6/30/14 10:33:59 PM] Derek.2: Are you voting for her if she makes finals
[6/30/14 10:34:17 PM] Vic: Over Jacob absolutely
[6/30/14 10:34:24 PM] Derek.2: Do you think she deserves it?
[6/30/14 10:36:53 PM] Derek.2: I don't mean to come off like an ass, it's your vote you can vote however you like. You knew her better than I did so I'm curious if in an opinion of someone who knew her better thinks she played a better game
[6/30/14 10:37:32 PM] Derek.2: Honestly I only talked to her 3 times so my perception of her gameplay is obviously going to be different
[6/30/14 10:39:00 PM] Vic: Lol I think if anyone knew just how close Jacob and I were and how he handled me getting voted out then they'd understand
[6/30/14 10:39:11 PM] Vic: He even admitted it the round yap left at TC
[6/30/14 10:40:14 PM] Vic: I should be in the final three with him and Cristina, that was the plan. Hodges is a huge threat too so it doesn't make sense to me still. But I'll get answers soon
[6/30/14 10:40:29 PM] Derek.2: Obviously how you vote is your business, I am just like genuinely curious because there was a lot I didn't know about Hodges; is there a lot I didn't know about Cristina?
[6/30/14 10:41:02 PM] Vic: Cristina seems to have dropped off when I was voted out. She was strong before that
[6/30/14 10:41:43 PM] Vic: She got yap to flip, got Taylor's rock, took your rock with it, was a lot of people's close ally in the beginning, had a secret deal with Joanne
[6/30/14 10:41:51 PM] Vic: That was all towards the beginning tho
[6/30/14 10:42:33 PM] Derek.2: You know I told Taylor to give his rock to Cristina, not saying it was because of me that he did it but I knew I wasn't going to get it but I wanted to know whom it was going to
[6/30/14 10:42:55 PM] Vic: Yeah but she was the only one he told from old liberte
[6/30/14 10:43:04 PM] Vic: He lied to the rest of us about it
[6/30/14 10:43:18 PM] Vic: The fact that he trusted her enough to give it to her says a lot
[6/30/14 10:46:55 PM] Vic: Basically, I know Jacob played much better than Cristina. But I'm not rewarding someone with my vote that handled voting me out the way he did when there was no reason to do so. Its not fair of me to vote for him over someone like Cristina who had my back the entire way through this game. I know Jacob would beat her anyway, I just won't give him the satisfaction of sweeping the vote
[6/30/14 10:47:28 PM] Derek.2: How did he handle it though, I don't remember the question/answer at tribal
[6/30/14 10:47:35 PM] Vic: Well
[6/30/14 10:50:12 PM] Vic: Like I said, Jacob Cristina and I had a F3 that Cristina and I were completely loyal to. Everything I did was to get us three to that point and never thought of voting Jacob out once. I would've stayed if him and Jess kept me and we still would've been in just as good of a spot with Hodges and Yap with us. HOWEVER. I got seven votes that round and two of those people lied about voting me, Jacob and Jessica. Jacob kept it going and saying that I was definitely staying if Yapp flipped. It took Nikki telling me that Jacob was voting for me for me to find out. I never saw it coming. The three of us planned on meeting up sometimes after the game, that's how close we all were. It just didn't seem right and something I would've never done and I don't respect it. If I ever voted him out I would've at least told him.

[kirin]

[BEFORE/DURING F4 IMMUNITY CHALLENGE]

[7/1/14 8:25:42 PM] Vic: do you guys want it to be a F3 or F2?
[7/1/14 8:27:00 PM] Nikki: F3 and hope cris doesn't get any votes
[7/1/14 8:27:01 PM] Charlie Schwerin: F3 Christina Joanne and hodges as first time players lol
[7/1/14 8:27:21 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Joanne wins hands down!
[7/1/14 8:27:31 PM] Nikki: I would like that three because it would be so easy to vote jo
[7/1/14 8:28:04 PM] Derek.2: You guys have weird opinions
[7/1/14 8:28:15 PM] Vic: Yeah I wouldn't hands down vote her over Hodges
[7/1/14 8:28:36 PM] Nikki: What do you think Derek?
[7/1/14 8:28:57 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Ok maybe not hands down but I think she would get at least 4 votes
[7/1/14 8:29:26 PM] Jared S: Like I said before. For meeee the only person I would absolutely not vote for is cris.
[7/1/14 8:30:14 PM] Nikki: Agreed Jared. Hodges is on that list for me too. Like I think he played a good game, but Jacob and Jo were better. Regardless one will be with him in a f3
[7/1/14 8:30:22 PM] Derek.2: I pretty much want Jacob to win regardless
[7/1/14 8:30:35 PM] Derek.2: However I think at this point they all deserve it
[7/1/14 8:30:47 PM] Derek.2: And I will be keeping in mind speeches made, not closing all my doors yet
[7/1/14 8:30:53 PM] Nikki: I would feel a lot better voting Jo over Jacob if I knew Jacob was going to win.. Is that weird?
[7/1/14 8:31:40 PM] Derek.2: Yes and I don't think people should have that mentality because Vic has the same one, what if we all wanted to pity vote for Joanne and then she gets all our votes when Jacob or hodges deserved it more
[7/1/14 8:32:09 PM] Jared S: I don't think it IS a pity vote for Joanne
[7/1/14 8:32:15 PM] Jared S: I think she played really well
[7/1/14 8:32:17 PM] Nikki: I don't think so either
[7/1/14 8:32:28 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Me either
[7/1/14 8:32:28 PM] Jared S: Not as flashy as Jacob maybe. But an excellent game.
[7/1/14 8:33:09 PM] Derek.2: But when you guys said yourself you all think Jacob has played the best overall game
[7/1/14 8:33:20 PM] Derek.2: I asked who would vote for Jacob when I got voted out
[7/1/14 8:33:25 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I never said that
[7/1/14 8:33:30 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I don't think he has
[7/1/14 8:33:35 PM] Derek.2: And a majority of you went in that direction.
[7/1/14 8:33:37 PM] Jared S: No. We would all consiiiider Jacob.
[7/1/14 8:33:48 PM] Derek.2: You weren't on that call Charlie so I'm excluding you and Vic from that
[7/1/14 8:34:10 PM] Nikki: She is amazing at tribal, positioned herself in the best spot on Jacmel, did an amazing job getting Charlie to trust her, got the inside info, stayed calm, and avoided most tribals.
[7/1/14 8:34:51 PM] Jared S: Right. She didn't have to play as hard bc she never went to tribal. However. When she did, she played her cards properly every single time.
[7/1/14 8:35:06 PM] Derek.2: I just know a lot of you said none of you would of voted for me and I definitely know I deserved some votes and I know I played a good game so I have to put myself out there for someone else who played a good and similar game in my opinion
[7/1/14 8:35:39 PM] Jared S: You had poor jury management tho. That's where you and Jo differ.
[7/1/14 8:35:58 PM] Jared S: I love you, but it's why you wouldn't get votes.
[7/1/14 8:36:00 PM] Nikki: Yeah I might have my other reasons for voting Jo over Jacob. One is that I wasn't close with him and he didn't really make an effort when it came to getting to know me. I am not going to be my favorite jury member by saying this, but we shall see. I would like it if Jacob won, but I want to vote for Jo.
[7/1/14 8:37:38 PM] Vic: Also, a lot of people viewed Joanne as a non threat throughout this game. It's why she's the last Jacmel standing I think. I don't think she's done nearly as much as Jacob or Hodges
[7/1/14 8:38:47 PM] Charlie Schwerin: She faked recording and sent it to people do get them to trust or not trust certain people
[7/1/14 8:39:02 PM] Charlie Schwerin: She lied to many people she won a lot of challenge
[7/1/14 8:39:02 PM] Jared S: I agree. But again, she didn't haaaave to. Why would you if it's not necessary? I would also love of Jacob won, but it's not fair to discredit Jo bc she "didn't do as much" except make moves when she had to
[7/1/14 8:39:58 PM] Derek.2: Again from what I saw in the game is obviously different from your guyses perspectives but what I saw wasn't as comparable again in my opinipn
[7/1/14 8:40:05 PM] Nikki: She was in all of the decisions, she just didn't have to go out to fight. Sent her players out while she was the queen
[7/1/14 8:40:07 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I'm not saying jacob doesn't deserve it I really this Jacob and Joann has done the same
[7/1/14 8:42:56 PM] Nikki: My vote for Jo is based on game play and personal. My votes for Jacob and hodges are just based on game play, but Jacob>hodges
[7/1/14 8:43:18 PM] Nikki: I could never justify voting for chris
[7/1/14 8:44:22 PM] Vic: I think Hodges is more deserving than Joanne
[7/1/14 8:44:32 PM] Vic: I love Joanne to death but game wise I think he played better overall
[7/1/14 8:44:37 PM] Vic: Overcame a lot more than she did
[7/1/14 8:44:49 PM] Nikki: Neither do I Vic
[7/1/14 8:44:57 PM] Vic: I'll listen to what they have to say no doubt, but that's my mindset going into it
[7/1/14 8:48:46 PM] Derek.2: Honestly they all played well
[7/1/14 8:49:06 PM] Derek.2: And I think it would be good of all of us to really listen to what they have to say at the end
[7/1/14 8:49:12 PM] Derek.2: No matter WHO is there
[7/1/14 8:49:16 PM] Jared S: Agreeeed.
[7/1/14 8:49:34 PM] Jared S: I'm sure they all have things we don't know ab
[7/1/14 8:50:34 PM] Jessica Frey: i want a final 3 but i want to see jacob take out hodges or vise verse b/c i think they both played the best game but i agree with what you guys said about joanne
[7/1/14 8:50:42 PM] Jessica Frey: i just don't think i could vote her over hodges/jacob
[7/1/14 8:53:05 PM] Jessica Frey: ya i agree with derek in that, its going to come down to speeches for me for the most part. bc they all have different stories.
[7/1/14 8:53:15 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Well yes I'm going to listen when you where still in the game I even said depending on what Christina says I may vote for her. My vote is up in the air to who I think played better. And how they explain it and who knew most of what was going on.
[7/1/14 8:55:23 PM] Vic: When whoever it was said Joanne didn't have to make as many moves to get to where she's at, why is that different from Cristina?
[7/1/14 8:55:39 PM] Derek.2: Wasn't me who said it
[7/1/14 8:56:01 PM] Charlie Schwerin: It was Jared but I think Joanne did make moves
[7/1/14 8:56:17 PM] Derek.2: Cristina made moves too
[7/1/14 8:56:23 PM] Vic: I guess I'm just wondering why most are rooting for Jo but will never vote Cristina when they've both made moves throughout the game at some point
[7/1/14 8:56:24 PM] Derek.2: Especially at final 7 when she flipped
[7/1/14 8:56:47 PM] Derek.2: I think just from personal experience
[7/1/14 8:56:56 PM] Jessica Frey: the thing that impressed me with joanne is actually quite simple but she is very well spoken
[7/1/14 8:57:02 PM] Derek.2: When Joanne made the moves, they smoothed over better and were more behind the scenes
[7/1/14 8:57:19 PM] Derek.2: She also used her social game to make up for her minor lack of strategic play
[7/1/14 8:57:48 PM] Derek.2: In my opinion
[7/1/14 8:58:23 PM] Jared S: I said it Vic. And that's my thing like Derek said. While it's nt many, I can name some things Jo did. I can't name anything Cristina did.
[7/1/14 8:58:33 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Christian has made moves but I don't think the best ones. And I'm not saying that cuz she got me out.
[7/1/14 8:58:50 PM] Jessica Frey: i will say christina talked to yap and did a lot with him, that i will tell her good job
[7/1/14 8:58:56 PM] Jessica Frey: but then she cut him
[7/1/14 8:59:55 PM] Vic: I just think that the things that Nikki said about why she's rooting for Jo, a lot of those things apply to Cristina too
[7/1/14 9:00:24 PM] Jessica Frey: she will have to prove that in final tribal
[7/1/14 9:00:35 PM] Vic: Jared, I just don't think you were around long enough to interact with Cristina tbh, just like me with Joanne I guess
[7/1/14 9:00:49 PM] Vic: I guess I just worked really closely with her so I saw different things
[7/1/14 9:00:51 PM] Derek.2: They do, Cristina never played a bad game either but again just talking about me, Joanne's moves seemed to smooth over better and she made moves that didn't make her a target and people didn't know about
[7/1/14 9:01:51 PM] Derek.2: But they were moves nontheless and smarter choices of moves vs Cristina who made more abrupt and chaotic moves when she was told to/when she felt like it. Just my opinion again if that makes sense
[7/1/14 9:02:25 PM] Vic: Yeah I get it. I was honestly just wondering. Because a lot of the things everyone is saying about Jo apply to Cristina too
[7/1/14 9:02:35 PM] Derek.2: They do
[7/1/14 9:02:44 PM] Derek.2: And I'm not saying discount Cristina at all
[7/1/14 9:02:58 PM] Derek.2: I know ya like the girl but listen to what everyone has to su
[7/1/14 9:02:59 PM] Derek.2: Su
[7/1/14 9:03:01 PM] Derek.2: Say*
[7/1/14 9:03:05 PM] Vic: No I know. There have just been a few that said they would never vote her
[7/1/14 9:03:19 PM] Derek.2: I said that but I don't think I would vote for Joanne either
[7/1/14 9:03:34 PM] Derek.2: So like I'm just not fully appreciative of that game style myself
[7/1/14 9:03:52 PM] Vic: I should probably make myself more clear! If its JUST Jacob and Cristina then she is getting my vote. I would consider Hodges and Jo over her though for sure
[7/1/14 9:04:23 PM] Derek.2: Okay well that's what I like to hear as a strategic player who got
Fucked over by strategic people
[7/1/14 9:04:55 PM] Derek.2: I know I say I would never vote Cristina but that's largely because I think she'll get 4th tonight
[7/1/14 9:05:02 PM] Vic: Really?
[7/1/14 9:05:17 PM] Vic: I honestly think it'll be Hodges or Jacob
[7/1/14 9:05:27 PM] Derek.2: I think it'll be Cristina
[7/1/14 9:05:28 PM] Derek.2: Personally
[7/1/14 9:05:57 PM] Jessica Frey: really?
[7/1/14 9:06:04 PM] Jessica Frey: ii would think cristina is a lock for final 2
[7/1/14 9:06:07 PM] Vic: Jacob seemed surprised last round when Hodges said its time to go after the threats. Like genuinely scared if he didnt have immunity haha
[7/1/14 9:06:20 PM] Jessica Frey: ya but he could be going with it but who knows
[7/1/14 9:06:28 PM] Derek.2: I think hodges and Jacob are closer than Cristina and jacob
[7/1/14 9:06:37 PM] Jessica Frey: jacob told me derek you and hodges wanted final 3 with him
[7/1/14 9:06:45 PM] Jessica Frey: and jacob was like no way would i do that
[7/1/14 9:07:01 PM] Jessica Frey: no offense but b/c u guys were good players
[7/1/14 9:07:09 PM] Jessica Frey: im assuming
[7/1/14 9:07:13 PM] Derek.2: Last time I talked to Jacob
[7/1/14 9:07:22 PM] Derek.2: Both Jacob and I were sure we could beat hodges in a jury
[7/1/14 9:07:26 PM] Jessica Frey: whoa
[7/1/14 9:07:33 PM] Derek.2: Like almost as sure as against Cristina/joanne
[7/1/14 9:07:39 PM] Derek.2: BUT
[7/1/14 9:07:50 PM] Derek.2: There's lots of things I didn't know until after I was voted
[7/1/14 9:07:51 PM] Derek.2: So
[7/1/14 9:07:51 PM] Jessica Frey: i think jacob thinks he for sure has my vote but if he is against hodges it is going to be hard
[7/1/14 9:07:59 PM] Derek.2: Jacob doesn't know those things either
[7/1/14 9:08:01 PM] Vic: Thinking about it now, I think Hodges could be in trouble if he doesn't win. If its between him and Jacob, I think both Cristina and Jo would side with Jacob over him
[7/1/14 9:08:08 PM] Jessica Frey: ya ^
[7/1/14 9:08:13 PM] Jessica Frey: spencer'd
[7/1/14 9:10:07 PM] Derek.2: Jacob has better ties with the two I think
[7/1/14 9:10:15 PM] Vic: yeah
[7/1/14 9:10:17 PM] Derek.2: So I think they'd stay with him
[7/1/14 9:13:46 PM] Jessica Frey: Yep
[7/1/14 9:14:08 PM] Derek.2: First things first I'm the realist
[7/1/14 9:14:26 PM] Jessica Frey: But if ppl think they can beat hodges then maybe he would stay
[7/1/14 9:14:31 PM] Jessica Frey: I really don't know

[7/1/14 9:28:53 PM] Derek.2: I didn't talk to a lot of Liberte either and I regret that
[7/1/14 9:29:06 PM] Derek.2: But I put a lot of time in Taylor and jacob
[7/1/14 9:29:49 PM] Derek.2: Oh the irony
[7/1/14 9:29:55 PM] Vic: That's the thing I don't understand about Jacob's game
[7/1/14 9:30:02 PM] Vic: He told me EVERYTHING you guys would say
[7/1/14 9:30:09 PM] Vic: how much you guys wanted him to flip
[7/1/14 9:30:09 PM] Vic: etc
[7/1/14 9:30:18 PM] Derek.2: I would do the same thoigh
[7/1/14 9:30:27 PM] Derek.2: I would tell people a lot of things Taylor said but

[7/1/14 9:39:31 PM] samM: Jacob wins immunity.
[7/1/14 9:39:35 PM] Vic: oh
[7/1/14 9:39:44 PM] Jessica Frey: OMG !!❤️❤️
[7/1/14 9:39:49 PM] Derek.2: Yay
[7/1/14 9:39:59 PM] Jessica Frey: So hodges here?
[7/1/14 9:40:10 PM] Vic: gotta be hodges
[7/1/14 9:40:11 PM] Derek.2: I still think it'll be Cristina coming it
[7/1/14 9:40:28 PM] Derek.2: I just get that weird feeling
[7/1/14 9:41:20 PM] Derek.2: I'm still dumbfounded I was voted out, I still feel the blindside singing my skin

[kirin]

[DURING F4 TC]

[7/1/14 10:06:13 PM] Jessica Frey: Wtf
[7/1/14 10:06:29 PM] Jessica Frey: Is hodges going to be blindsided
[7/1/14 10:06:43 PM] Jessica Frey: Or is it really going. To be Cristina or Joanne like he sad
[7/1/14 10:06:45 PM] Jessica Frey: Says
[7/1/14 10:07:21 PM] Jared S: i don't feel like it'll be a blindside....who can tell tho!
[7/1/14 10:10:55 PM] Vic: cristina jacob package deal
[7/1/14 10:11:28 PM] Jessica Frey: It's funny because you were with Cristina I was with Jacob and now they are a package deal
[7/1/14 10:11:45 PM] Vic: Well we had a F3 so thats why I'm upset
[7/1/14 10:12:11 PM] Jessica Frey: Tony spencer relationship between them hodges/Jacob
[7/1/14 10:12:21 PM] Jessica Frey: If it's a final 2
[7/1/14 10:13:57 PM] Jared S: l o l
[7/1/14 10:14:03 PM] Jared S: lets hear this a 3rd time
[7/1/14 10:14:13 PM] samM: and a fourth for the audience at home
[7/1/14 10:14:15 PM] Jessica Frey: Idk we had a parot at tribal
[7/1/14 10:14:17 PM] Derek.2: LOL
[7/1/14 10:15:18 PM] Jessica Frey: I think he's screwed
[7/1/14 10:15:25 PM] Jessica Frey: I'm worried for hodges
[7/1/14 10:15:45 PM] Nikki: I hope he goes
[7/1/14 10:16:01 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Well duh Jacob has immunity acorse your objects are only Joanne and Cristina
[7/1/14 10:16:12 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I hope he leves too
[7/1/14 10:16:19 PM] Vic: this jacob/cristina thing is so upsetting omg
[7/1/14 10:16:27 PM] Jessica Frey:
[7/1/14 10:19:49 PM] Nikki: It would be smarter for Jacob to take out hodges. He will have a better chance at immunity if it's f2. Also he has a really good shot at f3 if it stops
[7/1/14 10:20:45 PM] Jessica Frey: Sassy kirin
[7/1/14 10:20:53 PM] Jared S: right i love it
[7/1/14 10:21:10 PM] Jessica Frey: No more nice girl
[7/1/14 10:21:29 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I would be throwing a fit right now
[7/1/14 10:21:45 PM] Charlie Schwerin: If I was thought I was safe or not
[7/1/14 10:22:54 PM] Vic: anxious
[7/1/14 10:24:51 PM] Jared S: dammit
[7/1/14 10:24:55 PM] Vic: lol
[7/1/14 10:24:58 PM] Jared S: xD
[7/1/14 10:25:03 PM] Charlie Schwerin: Boo
[7/1/14 10:25:08 PM] Jared S: JACOB FOR THE WIN! <3 <3
[7/1/14 10:25:12 PM] Jared S: haha
[7/1/14 10:25:14 PM] Derek.2: Wow
[7/1/14 10:25:28 PM] Jessica Frey: Omg!!!!
[7/1/14 10:25:38 PM] Jessica Frey: What
[7/1/14 10:26:23 PM] Jessica Frey: Oh shit! Damn
[7/1/14 10:26:31 PM] Charlie Schwerin: I thought that a long time ago
[7/1/14 10:26:32 PM] Jessica Frey: That is kinda good to keep hodges as a buffer
[7/1/14 10:26:33 PM] Vic: god dammit
[7/1/14 10:26:59 PM] Nikki: Aww man!
[7/1/14 10:27:14 PM] Nikki: Go Jacob!!!
[7/1/14 10:27:23 PM] Jared S: well it was smart i guess since a lot of us were considering voting her!
[7/1/14 10:27:25 PM] Jared S: so props there!
[7/1/14 10:27:39 PM] Nikki: That is so true jared
[7/1/14 10:27:44 PM] Vic: I'm actually mad that its not a F3 haha since we have to wait longer
[7/1/14 10:27:49 PM] Jessica Frey: Ikr

[JOANNE ENTERS AFTER TC]

[7/1/14 10:28:00 PM] Ricky: Ricky added Jo to this conversation
[7/1/14 10:28:05 PM] Derek.2: Hii
[7/1/14 10:28:07 PM] Nikki: Jo
[7/1/14 10:28:07 PM] Jessica Frey: Awww joanne
[7/1/14 10:28:10 PM] Vic: Call started
[7/1/14 10:28:10 PM] Jo : hi everyone
[7/1/14 10:28:10 PM] Jared S: AWH JO I'm soooooooo sorry!
[7/1/14 10:28:11 PM] Jessica Frey: Good game